Genealogical Table of the Mac Sweeney Chiefs of Doe

<body topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0> <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 height="100%"><tr> <td valign="top" width=300 BGCOLOR="#C0DCC0" TEXT="#080000"> <div> <B>The Mac Sweeney Doe tombstone was carved c. 1554 (during a period of family reconciliation) when Mu</B><B>rchadh Mall was Chief of Doe.                    </B></div> <div> <IMG SRC="098d81f0.jpg" border=0 width="216" height="287" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> The late medieval  Mac Sweeney Doe Tombstone in Doe Castle, graveyard, c. 1890. Photograph, courtesy Ulster Museum.</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="0b9e4b30.jpg" border=0 width="228" height="435" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> The Mac Sweeney Doe Tombstone portrayed as it is today on the Dúchas notice board at Doe Castle.  Photograph, courtesy Dúchas.</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="0bbe57c0.jpg" border=0 width="229" height="380" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> The Mac Sweeney Doe Tombstone hanging broken and weathered on a wall of Doe Castle following its removal, without permission or consultation, from Doe Castle graveyard, 1969. </div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="0bff88f0.jpg" border=0 width="248" height="399" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> Regrettably, during the years the tombstone was hanging on the Castle wall further damage occurred when souvenier hunters removed pieces of carvings from the botttom of the tombstone.</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="0c1ef6b0.jpg" border=0 width="239" height="363" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div>  A replica Mac Sweeney Doe Tombstone was placed at the Chiefly graves in Doe graveyard by Dúchas following a written request by a "Descendant of Mac Sweeney Doe", 13/11/1996. </div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="0a2f9a70.jpg" border=0 width="249" height="167" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> Fr. Kevin O Doherty, P.P., New-towncunningham, Co. Donegal, blessing the Chiefly graves at Doe Castle, Nov. 2001, when the "Descendants of Mac Sweeney Doe" gathered  to commemmorate the 400th anniversary of their ancestors' epic march to the Battle of Kinsale, November 1601. </div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="257f7ba0.jpg" border=0 width="247" height="186" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> The Chiefly graves today following work undertaken jointly by Dúchas and  the "Descendants of Mac Sweeney Doe".  Further work is planned.</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="0b2fbb50.jpg" border=0 width="251" height="437" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> Recently, the original  Mac Sweeney Doe Tombstone was placed  in  Doe Castle - unprotected from the attentions of souvenier hunters.  Following discussions, May 13, 2003, between "Dúchas" and the "Descendants of Mac Sweeney Doe",  Dúchas agreed to protect the tombstone from further acts of vandalism.  </div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="0d5eb620.jpg" border=0 width="235" height="610" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> Late medieval graveslab of Niall Mór Mac Sweeney, Chief of Banagh (died 1524), erected at the west door of Killybegs R.C. Church, South Donegal. 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After the capitulation at Limerick 1691 they went to France with Sarsfield's forces and died there. The pedigree of <A HREF="id40_tarlagh.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Event 2006, Remembering the 90th anniver"><U>Tarlagh Mac Suibhne </U></A><A HREF="id40_tarlagh.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Event 2006, Remembering the 90th anniver"><U> </U></A><A HREF="id40_tarlagh.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Event 2006, Remembering the 90th anniver"><U>An Píobaire Mór,</U></A> (youngest son of Eamonn Rua, 16th Chief of Doe) was published in the Irish Weekly Times, 24 April 1909. The pedigree lists Edmund's son, Donnachadh Fhergal, as the father of Torlogh/ Toirrdhealbhach, 14th Chief of Doe.</div> <bR> <div>  </div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></B></div> <div> <B> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="302" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="BOX" RULES="ALL" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 177 WIDTH="296"><div> <B>Donough Oge, 13th Chief.  </B>Fought at Derry, the Boyne, Limerick.Outlawed 1691, died in France.</div> <div> (3rd on Williamite Outlawry List, 1691</div> <div> <B>                                               |</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>Torlagh/Toirrdhealbhach, 14th Chief.</B></div> <div> (Dispossessed as a child 1691)</div> <div> <B>                                                </B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>Eamonn Mór, 15th Chief, b.1738  d.1834</B></div> <div> (the generation missing in O Donovan's 1835 genealogy) <A NAME="cleary"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="1x1.gif" HEIGHT="1" ALIGN="bottom" WIDTH="1" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" ></A></div> <div> he married Kate MacSwine of Glenveagh.</div> <div> <B>                                               |</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>Eamonn Rua 16th Chief, b.1774  d.1851/55</B></div> <div> he married Hannah Hueston, Derryleconnel</div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></B></div> <div> <B>The renowned historian, Dr John O Donovan, who met Eamonn Rua Mac Sweeney in Donegal in Sept 1835 recorded: (a) in his 1835 Donegal Survey Letters; (b) in a footnote to page 2341 of his translation of AFM/ Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland; </B><B> </B><B>(c) in</B> <B>a letter to Eugene O Cleary, scholar, scribe and Professsor of Archaeology at the Catholic University;</B><B> </B><B>(d) in a letter to Owen Connellan, Irish historiographer to King George IV and King William IV  </B><B>that Eamonn Rua Mac Sweeney was '</B><I><B>the lineal legitimate descendant' </B></I><B>of Sir Maol Mhuire/ Myles Mac Sweeney, (10th)  Chief of Doe, 1596-1630, and was '</B><I><B>Mac Swayne na Doe and heir to Doe Castle and the sinsear of the Clann tSuibhne'.</B></I><B>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     </B></div> <bR> <div> The section of the genealogy between Sir Maol Mhuire/ Myles Mac Sweeney, 10th Chief of Doe, and Eamon Rua Mac Sweeney Doe, 16th Chief, proceeded (originally) from the genealogy of Tarlagh Mac Suibhne, An Píobaire Mór, published in the Weekly Irish Times, April 24, 1909. The 1909 genealogy gave the line of descent through Edmund a son of Donagh Mór, 11th Chief of Doe.  The genealogy has been revised according to Dr. John O Donovan's account, 1835, and the findings (August 2003) of the consultant genealogist who validated Thomas A. Sweeney's proofs of descent from Sir Maol Mhuire/ Myles,10th Chief of Doe,1596 -1630. Variations can occur in genealogies, e.g., in transcription, see Part 14 <A HREF="http://www.sweeneyclanchief.com/id27.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.sweeneyclanchief.com/id27.htm"><U>www.sweeneyclanchief.com/id27.htm</U></A>.</div> <bR> <div>  </div> <div>  Note.<FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT>The pedigree of O Donovan of Clan Cathail (recognised by Chief Herald Mac Lysaght 1944) and the O Donnell pedigree <FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" >(</FONT>recognised by Chief Herald Mac Lysaght 1945) both rely on the scholarship of Dr. John O Donovan and are regarded as <A HREF="http://homepage.tinet.ie/~seanjmurphy/chiefs/register.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://homepage.tinet.ie/~seanjmurphy/ch"><U>'unassailable'</U></A>.<FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" >  </FONT></div> <bR> <div>             <B>                                        </B></div> <div> (All known `Descendants of Doe' descend from Eamon Rua Mac Sweeney, c.1774 -1851/55, 16th Chief of Doe, from his sister Nana Rua, her brothers Donnchadh Rua, Séamus Mór, Brian Mór and Murrough, and from their 1st cousin, Miles MacSweeney of Glenveigh (1792 -1852) a descendant of Sir Maol Mhuire/ Myles Mac Sweeney, 10th Chief of Doe.  Myles Mac Sweeney lived in Glenveigh (now a National Park) until c. 1825, when his home and land were taken from him unjustly.  He married his 2nd cousin, Catherine, a daughter of Eamon Rua Mac Sweeney.  It was in their home in Ardlaghan, Glenfinn, that Catherine's youngest brother, the celebrated 19th century piper, Tarlagh Mac Sweeney, An Píobaire Mór, was born.  All members of the `Descendants of Doe' group are related to Tarlagh,<I> `An Píobaire Mór'</I> - born Glenfinn 1831/2, died in Gweedore 1916.)<FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>--------------------------------------------</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>Pedigree Declarations.</B></div> <bR> <div> Proofs of descent in the form of registration documents, wills, etc. are normally obtainable.  However, sometimes such proofs cannot be found or were lost or destroyed, eg., during the turmoil of the 17th, 18th,19th and early 20th centuries in Ireland.  In such circumstances, courts rely instead on<B> </B>admissible substitute material, e.g., pedigree declarations. The alternative would be chaos - particularly in relation to the devolution of property. <FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" >(Titles are regarded as property - ideal property.)</FONT></div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>Scottish Pedigree Declarations</B></div> <bR> <div> The similarity between Irish Law and Scottish Law, regarding pedigree declarations, was demonstrated recently in the case of Ranald MacDonald of Keppoch, Chief of the Name <B>v</B> The Lord Advocate of Scotland. Ranald Mac Donald of Keppoch successfully appealed a decision of The Lord Lyon of Scotland not to grant him recognition as Chief of the Name of the MacDonalds of Keppoch. His appeal, heard before Lord Macfayden and Lord Nimmo Smith, hinged upon the acceptance by the court of appeal of an orally transmitted pedigree/ sloinneadh.The accuracy of one name in the pedigree/ sloinneadh was also in contention.  The pedigree/ sloinneadh was recorded by a Mrs. Ann MacDonell from her husband John's sister Francis, who had in turn attributed it to John's uncle Allan who, according to Mrs. MacDonell 'claimed to be Chief to the day he died'. At the time of Allan, the pedigree/ sloinneadh had been written down at the suggestion of Father Andrew McDonell, who was an expert genealogist but not specifically an expert on the MacDonalds of Keppoch. </div> <bR> <div> <B>Conclusion of the Court.</B>  "We shall accordingly <B>(1) </B>sustain the petitioner's first plea-in-law and grant the prayer of the petition "for aught yet seen" in the name of Ranald Alasdair MacDonald of Keppoch, Chief of the Name and Arms of MacDonald of Keppoch and of the Honourable Clanranald of Keppoch, Mac-'ic-Roanuill, and <B>(2)</B> remit to the Lord Lyon to proceed as accords in respect of the petitioner's claim for confirmation of arms.<FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> For a summary of the case click<A HREF="id35.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ranald MacDonald of Keppoch, Chief of th"><U> http://www.sweeneydoeclan.com/id35.htm</U></A></div> <div> To read the full report click <A HREF="http://sweeneyclanchief.com/id26.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://sweeneyclanchief.com/id26.htm"><U>http://sweeneyclanchief.com/id26.htm</U></A></div> <bR> <div> <B>  Irish Pedigree Declarations -</B><B> Irish Law Reform Commission</B>.</div> <div> <B>1.</B> <B>Declarations inferred from family conduct</B><B> are admissible as evidence of pedigree, e.g., </B><B>a pedigree hung up in a family mansion is good evidence even if the person who made it is unknown, because of the presumption that if a family did not more or less adopt it, it would not have been suffered to remain. </B><B>For similar reasons declarations on family bibles and on tombstones are admitted.</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>2.</B> <B>Where questions of relationship are raised, evidence of statements by deceased members of the family are admissible to establish particular facts which are relevant to the enquiry.</B><B> </B></div> <div> (E.g., Dr. John O Donovan's declarations (a) in his Donegal Survey Letters, Sept.1835, (b) in a footnote, under year 1603, to his translation of the Annals of the Four Masters, re Eamonn Rua Mac Sweeney's descent from Sir Maol Mhuire/ Myles Mac Sweeney, Chief of Doe 1596-1603, and the recognition granted Eamonn Rua Mac Sweeney by the O Donnells and Mac Sweeneys and by every old Milesian from Fanaid to Ballyshannon.)</div> <bR> <div> <B>3.</B><B> </B><B>Learned treatises are generally admissible.  </B></div> <div> (E.g., Essays and published articles declare that Eamonn Rua Mac Sweeney born c.1774 was Chief of the Mac Sweeneys of Doe and heir to Doe Castle. Likewise, essays/ published articles and numerous radio discussions/ documentaries (particularly on R na G/ Irish language radio) declare the descent from the Chiefs of Doe of Eamonn Rua Mac Sweeney's youngest son Tarlagh, An Píobaire Mór, born c.1831- d.1916.)</div> <bR> <div> <B><U>Summary.</U></B><B><U> </U></B><B> </B></div> <div> <B>"Family Repute"</B> is acceptable in a court of law and <B>"General Repute"</B><B> </B>is evidence of pedigree -<U> </U><U>Irish Law Reform Commission</U>.<B>   </B></div> <bR> <div> <I><B>Vanishing Kingdoms.</B></I></div> <div> In his Foreword to <I>Vanishing Kingdoms</I> (by former U.S. Ambassador to Ireland/ former U.S. Ambassasor to France, Walter J. P. Curley,  The Lilliput Press, Dublin 2004)<B> </B>Charles Lysaght,<B> </B><FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" ><B> </B></FONT>described the fate of the Irish chieftain families following the collapse and 'extinction for ever' of the old Gaelic system. <FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" ><B>(Charles Lysaght, Barrister-at-Law, is Legal Adviser to the Irish Law Reform Commission, Legal Adviser to the Department of Foreign Affairs, Past President of the Oxford Union and 1st cousin of the late Edward Mac Lysaght - the Chief Herald of Ireland who established the system of 'courtesy recognition' of Irish Chiefs, 1944.)</B></FONT></div> <bR> <div> Charles Lysaght wrote:...... "There were those who accepted the opening to integrate themselves into the new English Protestant Ascendancy established as part of the conquest of Ireland in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. There were those who departed Ireland rather than accept this new order and became part of the aristocracies of the Catholic powers of continental Europe. There were those who hung on as minor Catholic gentry and are rightly celebrated. They produced from their number several leading nineteenth-century figures, notably our first great political leader, the Liberator Daniel O'Connell, who thus personified the link between the old Gaelic order and the modern Irish democracy. But it is clear that a large number of chieftain families either died out or, more probably, descended into such obscurity and illiteracy that their lineage cannot be easily traced from documentary sources. </div> <bR> <div> That there must have been a large class of dispossessed Irish Catholic gentry is evidenced by an early eighteenth-century Act that criminalized 'all loose idle vagrants and such as pretend to be Irish gentlemen and will not work'. <B>The best authenticated example </B><B>of social descent of this kind is the case of The McSweeney Doe, </B><B>whose early nineteenth-century ancestor</B><B>,</B><B> a travelling tinsmith, was identified to the antiquarian John O'Donovan </B>and whose dynastic claim was under consideration by the Chief Herald in 2003 when the decision was taken to terminate courtesy recognition.The uncertainty engendered by the likely social descent of many of those of chieftain stock was, of course, a ripe breeding ground for bogus claims of all sorts. Equally, it was probably the case that the presence among the downtrodden Irish peasantry of the descendants of the old chieftain caste must have contributed to the sense of dispossession that was to fuel the Irish nationalist movement and to distinguish it from normal social egalitarian movements. ......  "</div> <div> <B>                                           </B><FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > 28 September, 2006.</FONT></div> </td> </tr></table></body>